Ninomiya Kazunari's "It" (More), July 2013

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All caught up with my set for this column for now! (Thank goodness, now she can get back to Sukkyanen, amirite?) twosen is handling the other gaps in the index, so be sure to check out her translations here!

Transcription and translation by me. Please credit if using!

You can find the scan/translation index for this column here.


第５５回：罠
55: Traps

ニノは“騙し上手”だ。バラエティ番組のドッキリ企画は驚くほど起用にこなすし、ハマっていた手品はプロ級。発言や行動は、ときにトリッキーで、周囲を惑わしたりもする。「自分では、騙してるっていう意識は薄いかも（笑）。手品は技法に興味があってハマっただけだし。ドッキリも特別うまいとは思わない」
Nino is "good at fooling people". The pranks he's pulled on variety shows have been surprisingly skillfully executed, and the magic he was hooked on is pro level. His words and actions are occasionally tricky, and he's perplexing to the people around him. "Though I'm not very conscious of 'tricking' anyone (laugh). Like for magic, I got into it because I was interested in the techniques. And I don't think I'm especially good at pranks."

では、演じることに関しては？映画やドラマで見せるニノの表情は、“何か”が隠されているようで、観客の想像力をかきたてる。
Then what about in terms of acting? In the expressions Nino shows us in movies and dramas, it seems like he's hiding "something", and he stirs up the audience's imagination.

「演じることに関しても騙してる意識はないけど、想像してもらえるっていうのはうれしいよね。演じるうえでオレがやってることは、シンプルなの。そのうちのひとつは、聞こえていいセリフと聞こえなくていいセリフを分けて話すこと。見てわかる表情と見てわからない表情もそう。台本に書いてあっても、観客に届ける必要がないと思うセリフは、聞き取りづらいボリュームで話す。実際の日常でも、相手の言葉を全部聞き取れてるわけじゃないし、すべての感情をあからさまに顔に出してるわけでもないでしょ？わかりづらい言葉や感情がジャブになって、あとから効いてくることがある。好きな人を見つめてる表情がせつなく見えた時に初めて、『あの時、あの人はなんて言ってたんだろう？』って気になったりする。言ってるのに届いてない気持ちがあるって、せつなくていいじゃん。そういうのを作品の中でも再現してるつもり」
"When I'm acting, too, I'm not consciously fooling anyone, but I'm happy when people start to imagine things. What I do in terms of acting is simple. One thing is I differentiate in my speech between lines that should be heard and lines that don't need to be heard. It's the same for expressions you can and can't understand when you see them. Even if it's written in the script, if it's a line I don't think is necessary for the audience to hear, I'll say it at a volume that's hard to catch. Even in your everyday life, it's not like you hear every single word someone says to you, and it's not like every single emotion is written on their face. Sometimes words and emotions that are hard to understand turn into a quick jab, and they hit you later. Starting with the sad expression of someone looking at the person they love, you start to wonder what that person is saying. There are sometimes feelings that don't reach the other person even if you say them out loud, and that's sad and wonderful. I try to recreate that while acting, too."

すべてを語りすぎない、見せすぎないからこそ、深まる感情や関係がある。そのスタンスは、恋愛や仕事などプライベートな人間関係においても、自然と貫かれているよう。
It's precisely because he doesn't say too much or show too much that deep emotions and relationships exist. That stance carries naturally into love and work and even the private relationships he has with people.

「親しい相手でも“言う必要のないこと”は言わない。たとえば、プライベートで何かしら変化があったとしても、嵐のメンバーにはいちいち話さないなぁ。メンバーはプライベートで頻繁に会うわけでもないし、彼らの日常には必要のない情報だから。気遣わせても申し訳ないし」
"I don't say things that don't need to be said to people I'm close to. For example, I don't tell the members of Arashi every little change that occurs in my private life. It's not like we constantly meet up with each other in private either. It's information they don't need in their everyday lives. And I'd feel bad if they tried to be considerate of me."

子供の頃に遊んでないから今さら遊びたいとは思わない
Because he didn't play as a child, he doesn't feel the urge to play now.

では、“言いたくないこと”に関してはどうだろう。もしも、恋愛中に浮気をしてしまったら、彼女には真実を話す？それとも隠す？
Then what about "things he doesn't want to say"? If he cheats on his girlfriend while they're in a relationship, would he tell her the truth? Or would he hide it?

「わざわざ言わないほうがいいことだけど、自分の悪さを隠すのはズルいよね（笑）そこは非を認めて埋めあわせをしたほうが、後々、いいんじゃない？でも、オレは、明らかにやっちゃいけないことは、最初からしないかな。いちいち面倒くさいもん（笑）。もともと遊びたい欲求も薄いし。『子供の頃から働いてて、遊べなくてかわいそうだったね』ってよく言われるけど、遊んだことないから、その楽しさもわからないし、遊びたい欲求もわかないの。クラブとかもほぼ行ったことないから、行きたいとも思わない。それよりも、ゲームしているほうが楽しい。そういうふうに生きてきちゃったんだもん（笑）。ついこの間も、あるクリエイターの人と飲む機会があったんだけど、“遊ぶ”よりそっちのほうがうれしかったなぁ。ものづくりへのストイックな姿勢とか、マニアックな裏話とか聞きながら、面白くてしかたなかった。たとえばゲームもね、騙すためのトリックよりも、楽しむための仕掛けや裏技のほうが好きだったりする。昔のゲームは、そういうのが多かったんだよね」
"While I think it's the kind of thing that you shouldn't go out of your way to say, it'd be really unfair of me to hide my bad deed (laugh). So in that case, wouldn't it be best in the long run to own up to your mistake and try to make up for it? Though personally, I don't do anything that I know I shouldn't be doing to begin with. Doing it is a pain (laugh). And I've always had little desire to play. I'm often told, 'You've been working since you were a child so you couldn't go out and play, you poor thing.' But because I've never played around before and I don't know how fun it is, I never get that desire to. And I've basically never gone to clubs, and I don't ever feel like I want to. Gaming is more fun than that. Since that's how I've lived my life till now (laugh). Just the other day, I had the chance to go drinking with a certain creator, and that was more fun than 'playing' would have been. His stoic approach to creating things, his zealous behind-the-scenes stories... listening to that was so interesting I couldn't deal with it. Like, for games, too, more than the tricks meant to fool you, I like the secret tricks and setups that are meant to be enjoyed. Older games had a lot of those kinds of things."

ニノ自身も、映画やドラマの中でも裏技や伏線などの罠を仕掛けておくのが楽しいという。映画『プラチナデータ』の時は、公表した立ち位置や視線のほかにも、「実は、もっといろいろ仕掛けていた」と話す。
Nino says that in movies and dramas, he himself has fun setting traps like secret tricks and foreshadowing. During Platinum Data, aside from the standing positions and where people were looking that he's mentioned before, "we actually did even more than that."

「何気なく指をさす方向とか、アドリブのセリフとか。でも、即興で仕掛けたことに関しては、ほとんどがカットになっちゃった。暴走しすぎたのかもね（笑）。たとえば、リュウが（鈴木）保奈美さん演じる水上教授とふたりで絵を描いているシーンも、実は撮影時は延々とアドリブで掛けあいしてたの。水上先生にも絵を描いてもらったりしながら、お互いが昨日見た夢の話まで及んで、それが映画のテーマの核心に触れちゃったんだよね。撮影直後は、われながらすごくいいシーンだな、いい伏線になるなって思ったけど。ギリギリを狙いすぎて、アウトだった（笑）。映画には映らなかったけど、そういう仕掛けをしてたことも、“何か”にはなってるのかも」
"A finger casually pointed in a certain direction, or adlibbed lines. But the ones we improvised were mostly cut. I think we went overboard (laugh). For example, there's a scene where Ryu and Professor Mizukami, played by (Suzuki) Honami-san, are painting together. We were actually endlessly adlibbing with each other the entire time that was being filmed. While Ryu had Mizukami-sensei paint for him, they made it all the way to a conversation about what they dreamed about the night before, and we accidentally got to the core of the theme of the film. After it was filmed, even we thought it was an amazing scene with great foreshadowing. But we aimed a little too closely for the edge, and it went out (laugh). It isn't in the film, but I think the fact that we planted those kinds of things will turn into 'something'."

トリッキーな人は秘密主義かと思いきや、楽しそうに罠の種明かしをしてくれるところも、面白い。
As soon as we think that someone this tricky would be full of secrets, he happily reveals the foundation of his traps. That side of him is also interesting.

「ゲームなら実際に挑戦してクリアしてもらえばいいけど、映画やドラマの仕掛けはこっちからの一方通行になりがち。だから、観る人が仕掛けを聞いたことで、より楽しんで観てもらえたらいい。人を騙したいわけじゃなく、楽しんでほしくて罠を仕掛けてるだけだからね（笑）」
"For games, it'd be good if you tried it and cleared it on your own, but for movies and dramas, the setups tend to be one-way traffic from our end. So after hearing about the things we set, it'd be great if the viewers went back and had even more fun watching. It's not that I want to fool people. I want them to enjoy themselves, so I set some traps along the way (laugh)."

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Kazunari Ninomiya
１９８３年６月１７日、東京生まれ。嵐の新曲『Endless Game』が５月２９日発売。MCをつとめる初冠バラエティ『ニノさん』（日本テレビ系・水曜深夜）が絶賛放映中。最近、ますます出無精になったというニノ。「家にいてテレビで可愛い女の子とかセクシーな女性とか見ても、『かわいいねぇ』ってちょっと思う程度で十分。だって、一緒に飲んでいる友達はもう５０過ぎだもんなぁ。５０代以降に囲まれてるから（笑）」
Born on June 17, 1983 in Tokyo. Their new song "Endless Game" goes on sale May 29. The first regular variety show that he's MCing, Nino-san (NTV, late night on Wednesdays) is currently airing to wild praise. Nino says he's been keeping house more and more recently. "Even when I'm at home and I see a cute girl or sexy woman on TV, sort of thinking to myself 'she's cute' is plenty. See, my friends I drink with are all over 50. I'm surrounded by people in their 50s and older (laugh)."

Comments

[addictedarashi.livejournal.com]

Thank you for translating!
When the It column began, he said that he's drunk with people in their 40s.
... 5 years
times is so fast ...